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ACT NOW: Kennedy Tobacco Bill Begins Debate June 2nd 2009!

Mr. UNZ aka Larry Waters; defender of Snus and Reduced Harm TobaccoPolitics and rationality sometimes make strange bedfellows.  Bill Godshall is a decades-long Anti-Cigarette Lobbyist and Activist.  We met in dueling comments on TobaccoToday.  Make no mistake about it, Bill is anti-cigarette and anti-second hand smoke.  We are also not of like mind when it comes to what he calls "progressive taxation" and I call "social engineering" or "punitive taxation".

While Bill Godshall is anti-cigarette, he is not anti-cigarette smoker.  He does not subscribe to the "ban all tobacco products" mantra of the anti-tobacco extremists.  About five years ago, Bill Godshall began touting the value of Reduced Harm Tobacco Products like snus, snuff and oral products like Camel Orbs and Sticks.  He saw no value in forcing American smokers to "just quit"...nicotine addiction is real and so is the black market once a  commodity desired by over 40 million American smokers is suddenly banned.  Remember Prohibition and alcohol?

Bill and I had a marathon phone conversation and exchanged many emails since first meeting.  SnusCENTRAL.org has always been about

Reduced Harm tobacco products enabling cigarettes smokers to save themselves without suffering.  Swedish Snus was my savior from cigarettes.  There are others though.

The SnusCENTRAL.org website is locked down right now as version two is being made ready for launch.  Bill Godshall will join the site with his own section on version 2.  I can guarantee you will not agree with everything he says.  He's happy to respond to comments, so don't be shy.  But keep in mind when it comes to Reduced Harm Tobacco products, Bill Godshall and SnusCentral do share some common ground.  Funny how things work out sometimes....

I received this from Bill Godshall this morning and encourage you all to read and support his call to ensure Reduced Harm alternatives to cigarettes be available and affordable to current American cigarette smokers.

LARRY WATERS
Activist Snus Guru
Shining the Light of Truth from SnusCENTRAL.org

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Tomorrow (June 2) the US Senate is set to consider Philip Morris drafted and backed FDA tobacco regulatory legislation (S. 982).  Please contact your Senators (202-224-3121) and let them know your concerns about the legislation.  Smokefree Pennsylvania wrote the following letter to Senators. 
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Smokefree Pennsylvania
1926 Monongahela Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15218
412-351-5880
FAX 351-5881
smokefree@compuserve.com

June 1, 2009

Dear Senator

Unless Sen. Kennedy's tobacco bill (S. 982) is amended with harm reduction provisions, Smokefree Pennsylvania urges you to OPPOSE this privately negotiated deal (in 2004) between Philip Morris and the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids to protect the deadliest tobacco product (Marlboro
cigarettes) from market competition by the least hazardous tobacco/nicotine products (smokefree).

S. 982 poses an enormous threat to public health and the health of 45 million smokers because it:
- bans all new and recently introduced smokefree products while keeping cigarettes on the market,
- misleads consumers to believe that smokefree tobacco products are just as hazardous as cigarettes,
- bans companies from informing smokers that smokefree products are less harmful than cigarettes,
- requires the FDA to perpetuate the safer cigarette fraud by regulating cigarette smoke constituents,
- prohibits the FDA from ending tobacco marketing to 12th graders in high school (age 18), and
- authorizes an agency (FDA) to regulate tobacco that cannot reasonably regulate nicotine products.

Sound product regulations truthfully inform consumers about risks of different products and encourage industry to make lower risk products.

Although cigarettes are 100 times deadlier than smokefree tobacco products, S. 982 requires misleading warnings on smokefree tobacco products that confuse consumers to believe they are as hazardous as cigarettes, bans new and recently introduced smokefree tobacco products (unless approved by FDA), and violates the Constitutional rights of tobacco companies to truthfully inform consumers that cigarettes are more hazardous.

By switching to smokefree tobacco/nicotine products, smokers reduce their health risks by nearly as much as by quitting all tobacco/nicotine, and millions have already done so.  The percentage of nicotine obtained from smokefree tobacco/nicotine products in the US has doubled (from 10% to 20%) during the past decade, but S. 982 will curtail that public health progress.  Smokers have a human right to truthful information about, and legal access to, far less hazardous alternatives.  And public health agencies have an ethical duty to inform smokers about reduced risk alternatives.

S. 982 also requires the FDA to establish regulatory guidelines for cigarette companies to make claims that some cigarettes are "reduced exposure" compared to other cigarettes, and encourages the FDA to establish limits for different constituents in tobacco smoke.  This would be a disaster for public health because it perpetuates the safer cigarette myth/fraud that began with cigarette filters in the 1950's and continues to this day with low tar, light and ultralight cigarettes, which is why 85% of smokers inaccurately believe that the latter cigarettes are less hazardous than others. 

S. 982 would do very little to reduce smoking or protect youth (as promoters of the bill continue to falsely assert).  The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that H.R. 1256 (Rep. Waxman's nearly identical bill) would reduce youth smoking by only 11%, and adult smoking by just 2% over the next DECADE.  In contrast, youth tobacco use declined by 50% to 65% (depending upon product and age group) in the past decade, while overall cigarette consumption declined by 26% in the past decade.  A key reason S. 982 does little to reduce youth tobacco use is because it prohibits the FDA from banning the sale and marketing of tobacco products to virtually all 12th graders, ensuring easy access to all high school students.

Finally, the FDA should not be given authority to regulate tobacco products unless and until the agency can reasonably regulate the least hazardous nicotine products (e.g. NRT products including gums/lozenges/skin patches, and electronic cigarettes).

The FDA still hasn't acted on a petition filed by the New York State Health Commissioner more than 14 months ago to require the FDA to allow the sale of NRT in daily dose packages, allow their sale at all stores that sell cigarettes, and to improve the misleading and scary warning labels on NRT.  And during the past several months, the FDA has blocked imports of electronic cigarettes and proposed banning the products, which would result in tens of thousands of product users going back to smoking lethal cigarettes.

Once again, please support harm reduction amendments to S. 982, and reject the legislation unless harm reduction amendments are approved.  Smokefree Pennsylvania supports the following list of amendments that have been filed to S. 982.

Since 1990, Smokefree Pennsylvania has advocated policies to reduce indoor tobacco smoke pollution, increase cigarette taxes, reduce tobacco marketing to youth, preserve civil justice remedies for tobacco victims, expand smoking cessation services, and inform smokers that smokefree tobacco/nicotine products are less hazardous alternatives to cigarettes.

Sincerely,


William T. Godshall, MPH
Executive Director

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Amendments to S. 982 endorsed by Smokefree Pennsylvania.

Amendment Purpose
Burr #2 Change "public health" standard to "reduce youth tobacco use"
standard
Burr #3 Smokeless tobacco carveout
Burr #4 Require reductions in tobacco illness and death Coburn #1 Internet sales Coburn #3 Including Native American retailers and manufacturers Coburn #4 7 year hard sunset Coburn #7 GAO study on metrics Coburn #9 PACT Act Enzi #2 Higher civil penalties for tobacco companies Enzi #4 Imminent hazard authority Enzi #5 Strike adverse event reporting and require DSMB Enzi #8 Indexing user fees in outyears Hagan #1 To ensure that performance standards are based on achievable technology Hatch #7 Standard for reduced risk products Hatch #10 Performance and financial reports Hatch #11 Report on impact of program on SCHIP Murkowski #1 Track and trace for tobacco

 

 



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  1. I sent my senetor a e-mail now the rest of the members from snuscentral need to do the same. Please help in being able to access our lifeline "snus".
  2. SURGEON GENERAL MAKES MISTAKE:

    TOBACCO CIGARETTES ARE GOOD FOR YOU!

    GREAT NEWS!! After years of medical research that indicated smoking was responsible for many of the diseases suffered by man including CANCER, HEART DISEASE, EYE DISEASES,and LUNG DISEASE it has been determined to be wrong!!

    The Surgeon General announced today during a visit to Mars that previous medical research showing that smoking tobacco cigarettes is harmful to human health was flawed. Further, it appears that smoking is actually healthy and contributes to longevity. The 4,000 plus ingredients contained in a cigarette are nourishing and healthy.

    Announced concurrently with the great news about tobacco cigarettes is that the new Electric Cigarette has been discovered to be harmful to your health and responsible for heart disease, cancer, lung disease, and eye disease. Further, the nicotine contained in the Electric Cigarette is responsible for under age smoking, use of illegal drugs, and increased crime.

    For those of you that do not believe the news and feel that the Electronic Cigarette is a better alternative or at least no worse than the tobacco cigarette that is currently legal to buy and use, please go and buy one.

    The humor in the above is self-evident. I wish people (Gov’t or others) would stop trying to protect us from ourselves. If we need their help I am sure we are capable of asking. In the interim, leave us alone!! Anyone, even with a sliver of a brain, knows that tobacco cigarettes are harmful and deadly. I believe that my e-Cigarette device has saved me a certain early death. That is my decision to make and should not be subject to anyone’s permission. The day the American Government bans tobacco cigarettes will be the day that I spring wings and fly. Until then I prefer to be A Smart Smoker and ask that you stop the hypocritical B.S. and keep your noses out of our business. PLEASE!!!
  3. Hi Benz!.....You raise an interesting point. I tried the electronic cigarette and e-cigar at the Tobacco Plus Expo. After 2 years it was really strange to see (simulated) smoke come out of my mouth again. The nicotine kick wasn't near as strong as cigarettes, but I did feel it and inhaled nicotine is a different experience than orally absorbed.........here's the problem I see with electronic inhaled nicotine delivery systems: health advantages aside, they don't solve any of the social stigma and problems cigarette smokers have........if it looks like cigarette smoke, you're going to be explaining how it's not all day. On my flight back, a flight attendant refused to let a women use an e-cigarette since it "looked" like she was smoking. If e-smoke starts floating above your cubicle at work, you're an HR issue. Restaurants, stores, hospitals; they don't want to hear you explain the e-cigarette. All of the above especially don't want to have to keep explaining it to all the non-smokers who complain or the smokers who ask why they can't light up. No odor but still not socially acceptable......I can't see it as something you use along with cigarettes so you don't smell up your car, for instance. If you're still smoking, it's just not the same thing......Smokeless tobacco on the other hand, especially snus since there is no spitting and it is completely discreet, makes sense as a cigarette replacement........ After 35 years of smoking cigarettes, it took me a week to transition to Swedish Snus and I haven't had or desired another cigarette since. EXCEPT after a colleague literally dragged me away from the e-cigarette booth. Suddenly, the cigarette smoke in the air smelled good again. I began staring at the cigarette distributors booths stacked with packs of cigarettes...Then I began staring at the "cigarette girls" with their trays of free cigarettes. I had been doing that all day, to be honest, but now I was staring at the trays of cigarettes.......If I started using e-cigarettes or e-cigars, I think it would only be a matter of time before I started smoking tobacco cigarettes again. I've been two years+ cigarette-free but after puffing on the e-products, the desire came rushing back. I was able to resist even at a tobacco convention but if I used an e-cigarette as an alternative nicotine source? I honestly think I would end up smoking again; soon than later......Sincerely, Larry
  4. I will make this as short as possible.

    we have big pharma and big tobacco vs some small mostly online stores that sell e cigarettes in the US.

    basically Money talks here, and there is lots of lobbying etc etc.

    with that said... most of these stuff is made in China.... so.... they might have some sort of a point.

    here is the bottom line.... I will take my chances with a Chinese made e cig vs a USA made cancer stick. If thats a problem... LETS bring production to the US... maybe big pharma and tobacco can even fund it. we make it here.. sell it here.. and collect taxes here... everyone WINS... and we move on. NO pun intended here.. but that would be thinking with a lot of REASON... and that will never happen.... so I will wait and see.....

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