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WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SNUS IN THE USA?

If I recall, the cost of a mini-snus factory should not run over $3 million.  That’s with standard primary and Mertz machines, plus re-wetting, and, the variable, refrigerated facilities for storage.  No white, unless you want to fake it, but then it looks like used Pampers.

  • Lab, small offices, locker/shower room, disposable food prep clothing, etc. and so forth. A mini-factory can be run with six people, a manager, and a lab guy.
  • Swedish Match requires a snus shelf-life of 18 weeks under proper refrigerated conditions.
  • Why has no one installed a simple Swedish snus factory in the USA?
  • What happened to the much ballyhooed American producers like Nordic-American?
  • Where did Swedish Match go, and why do they continue to annoy me anyway?

I ran a snus factory in Vargarda Sweden for Gallaher (now JTI) for two years.  The factory, formerly belonging to Gustavus AB, perfected its snus product under Gallaher, and launched a few interesting The Vargarda Snus Factoryproducts, the most important being LD, which, for the first time, put a major global cigarette brand into the world of Other Tobacco Products (“OTP”).

The factory bled money until one brief moment when we had reached an annualized volume (read: best month ever, and multiply by 12) of 10m cans with LD at 7 SKUs in 2006.

Why?  Labor:  52% of my cost.  Materials: 37%.  Tobacco and controllables:  The rest.

Factories need volume to break even and pay wages, and, without cigarettes, snus start-ups are not viable.

Well-meaning mistakes have been made in the US:  Liggett-Vector Group took the first plunge with two product lines (remember ‘Grand Prix?’), but they were imported and not true heat-pasteurized ‘Swedish’ snus products, despite their point of origin, SnusAB, in Sweden.

Liggett, internally, is dedicated to providing smokers with reduced-harm alternatives, and truly thought snus was one path to take. Yet, the consumers spoke, and, with an excise hike on smokes not having the hoped-for effect on smokeless sales, they eventually abandoned the project.  Close to my heart, as I worked for the sister company ‘Liggett-Ducat’ (LD) and Gallaher/LD in Russia for years.

Nordic-American Smokeless, close to my heart, as I ran the Norwegian sister trading company “Taboca AS” for 1 ½ years, also tried.  Co-investment with Swisher in a snus-y factory division in their Western Pennsylvania facility led to the launches of ‘Klondike’ and ‘Nordic Ice.’ “Snus-y?”  Because the product is fermented.  Just like the SnusAB product.  Many consumers complained on-line of its cloying sweetness and dryness.  Website is disabled.

American Smokeless (Discreet):  Tom, your website is gone (all searches go to UST), yet your snus has been rated the best of the lot for fullness of flavor.

RJRUSA and PMUSA?  If you are reading this, you know their products are generally reviled on a quality basis, especially for cloying sweetness and awful mouthfeel.  Yet, unfortunately, they hold the greatest promise of eventually providing the product you want.  Why?  They make cigarettes.  They have warehouses filled with snus-making equipment.  RJR has access to BAT’s snus-making abilities (major shareholder), and PM to Swedish Match’s (partners in snus outside Scandinavia.  1847.).

Swedish Match:  And this brings it down to the prime question-mark in the industry:  The major piece of news that never, ever happened in 2009/10.

Albeit, SWMA is fighting many battles:  The EU, for one, which in the Big Tobacco lunatic fringe, was closed to snus by Philip Morris International and/or Big Pharma in the 1990s.  Yet, the two companies (minus Big Pharma) are now great buddies for smokeless around the world, and SWMA seems to keep throwing local business into PMI’s maw (South Africa smokes being one).

But, the USA is anemic. Since SWMA has re-organized for the 1700th time, and now has a “smoke-free” division with world-wide coverage, the US gets the “Original Pursuit” campaign, which is a mono-brand (General) tribute to NYC drunks out on St. Patrick’s Day, art galleries, and some kind of hang-gliding.  And then, they announce the product’s availability has increased by 300 shops after 8 months.  Not in NYC or LA, or Chicago, mind you, but the USA.

When I worked at Pepsi, 300 shops in a start-up was 5 guys working for a week.  And the Swedish Match sales staff should know that.

In the US, the problem Swedish Match has had, in all its attempts at “educating” consumers these past two decades, is boring black and mustard-yellow cans, and ‘education’ campaigns at shops in major cities.

Go out there, and put your new products in 7000 shops.  ALL the Shell stations, and ALL the Exxon stations. ALL the 7-11’s.  You guys can get into 7-11…you’re all over them in Sweden and Norway. Invest money, knowing you will throw product away, but it’s better than the damned hang-gliding or art galleries.  No-one cares about that.

In the US, ONLY Swedish Match will get this ball rolling.  With its new innovative products and packaging, it can only succeed.  Increase shelf life, and get out of the fridge business, except in tobacconists, but get out there! You’ve got a whole damned sales force, and cash, and the best, most cared for products in the business.  Get your US snus factory open and kick some ass. Save some smokers’ lives in the process.

ANDREW ROMEO

Reporting for SnusCENTRAL.org
St. Petersburg (Russia) 2010


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  1. Preach it, Brother! 2 years ago it was announced/rumored that SM was opening a factory in TN. or Ky. I'm still waiting....
  2. There were rumors that PMUSA was sitting on a warehouse filled with 80 machines in Virginia or North Carolina a few years ago.

    And I actually met with an Italian producer of cigarette making equipment with whom Gallaher was doing business (as well as most others, including PM), who said they were working directly with PM on proprietary snus-making technology. A sleeping giant?
  3. I think we were all a little let down by Swedish Match's inaction. They held the keys to the kingdom, but screwed up so horribly that it will be a wonder if there is THIRTY stores in the US carrying General.

    I really don't get it. Swedish Match is in just as many stores as RJR- why are they trying to hide their snus line? Does Camel SNUS intimidate them? If that's the case, then Swedish Match needs to get some new leadership in their ranks. People that are proud of their product, and sure of its appeal. Guys that are willing to stand behind General and not give the entire North American snus market over to RJR and PM.

    I mean, how do you screw up General? That's like not being able to sell a hundred dollar bill for five bucks.
  4. Well if Marlboro snus is what they came up with I think that giant will keep on sleeping.
  5. I find myself asking the same questions from time to time. Tom from Discreet kinda vanished after telling me about his new dip - Tomahawk - which was a dip, but pasteurized (a la snus). I've been wondering what he's been up to lately. Discreet had promise. Just needed bigger portions. The "Swedish Style" he tested (I think Larry tried some of it too) was the closest thing to a Swedish Snus I've had in an American made product. But due to budgets, he hadn't (at that point) invested in a regular portion machine - and was only producing minis.

    The Original Pursuit campaign could have done much better. Before FDA - they were in clubs, night clubs, bars - everything. Loaded up with sample packs of General Snus and getting it where it needed to be - in people's mouths. Now, FDA has rather limited people on what can be done. For example, no more free samples. And it's going to be hard to get someone to pay (what, $4 or $5 bucks now?) for a can of something they have no idea about. It's going to take a big push, a consistent marketing plan, and commitment to the US for a company to have a presence here. Much like RJR, just PUTTING it out there and seeing what happens.

    To be honest, many of us found snus through Camel "SNUS". Now is the time for a company to ride on those coat tails and bring in another product. Snus is more well known in America, and if anyone waits too long - RJR will have too much dominance in this country. Sad to say that. It's my hope that SMNA will get behind snus and make it happen.

    Chad
  6. @ Chad - More news on Discreet very shortly. 8-)

    As for the Original Pursuit campaign SMNA put out: is it any surprise that everyone fondly calls it the Trivial Pursuit campaign? I have a feeling SwM US campaigns will be different in the future. I certainly hope so.
  7. All good points, especially about finding Swedish Snus through the Camel dung. My gas station here in CT was one of the first to get some Camel Snus. in fact, he gave me the Frosted & Mellow tins for nothing as I paid for my Marlboro reds. I need 2 pouches to equal half a Marlboro. However after some research I soon found my way to the light and the truth that is Swedish Snus.
    I went right for a can of Thunder Wintergreen. Eventually settling on Frosted, took me a few months to step down off the Cigs but I did it. June of 2009 was the last time I lit up. I've tried a bunch of flavors and brands but I love the Thunder Frosted the best.
  8. The way I see it, SM is simply being handled by PM/RJR. They can't expand to the rest of Europe because the EU is keeping it's disgusting ban in place (thank PM for that), and PM/RJR have completely ruined the potential for snus in the US by putting out poor products.

    It's unfair and very frustrating, but there's nothing SM can do about it.
  9. Sadly the folks at SMUSA are not interested in snus. They are interested in pushing cigars. They need to sh!t can the whole sales team and hire folks dedicated to getting snus in every 7-11 etc in the country. That was why when you got snus from SM getsnus they were usually old and or expired. They came from the cigar shops and were unsold products most of the time. Again because the morons in charge at SM USA are not snus minded. More money in cigars for them to even want to bother with a daily staple product like snus. I hope that all changes in the future. And hopefully before Rick and his new job at Northerner gets coverage across the U.S. Sorry Rick, nothing against you. Just don't want to see Northerner as the only game in town.

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